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Oct. 13th, 2004 @ 10:11 am Premonitions and Postulations
Discussion
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xooxer:
From:crispiness
Date:October 17th, 2004 04:43 am (UTC)
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All good points. I suspect that the bishop is the intended occupant of the fourth seat; there could be another character that is directing the bishop though, I suppose. But I'm more inclined to suspect the bishop, because we haven't caught a glimpse of any other such character yet (unless I missed something).

This reminds me of a game of Clue. It was the Bishop in the Church with the Flammable Accelerant!
From:arpiby
Date:October 17th, 2004 10:21 pm (UTC)
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It's possible that the alliance here doesn't actually have a full fourth member, that the seat is simply intended for the Bone King's servitor and not an independent power (in which case his Excellency Rory could be the intended occupant of the seat anyways). However, I think you overlook one possibility for the fourth power: Morgenstern. He has gotten quite a bit of face time for the comparatively small part he has (directly) played in the plot so far, and depending on the cosmology of this world he may have a vested interest in seeing to it that Earth is not overrun by extradimensional invaders. He would fit in quite well with this merry little trio; the alliance is a devil's bargain if there ever was one, with all three obviously maneuvering (or planning to maneuver) against each other. The Seeress had no knowledge of him when he was introduced, but that was a very early chapter and he could be a recent addition like the cyborg.

There still isn't a lot of concrete evidence there, though; Morgenstern might just be a minor player in this, or potentially he could even be the main threat that the alliance is seeking to thwart. That would be cliche, though, and the fact of the Seeress' lack of knowledge of Morgenstern is a problem for this theory as well; but then, the Seeress only needs to know of the impending invasion and its general nature, not necessarily its leader (in fact, if what she says about extraplanar events is true, it's likely she doesn't know an awful lot about the driving force behind this looming invasion anyways).
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From:xooxer
Date:October 17th, 2004 10:38 pm (UTC)
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I haven't overlooked him, in fact, he's been my main suspect all along. If you read my posts here, you'll see I did everything but name him. My suspicions were based on his apparent ties to the higher planes, the fact that Johnny disliked him, he's kind of creepy, and that the Seeress didn't know him. I didn't want to name him until I had better evidence of his connection, but I've had my eye on him for some time.
From:arpiby
Date:October 18th, 2004 12:24 am (UTC)
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I was referring to crispiness' comment about not knowing who else could belong in the fourth seat. I had read your posts but actually thought you were hinting at Johnny; I remember the story mentioning Johnny's having had connection to a higher plane, but never Morgenstern's. It does point to a past such connection indirectly, but points to it as a bridge long since burnt, his present connections lying quite in the opposite direction (which granted is even more reason to suspect him).
From:crispiness
Date:October 18th, 2004 08:48 am (UTC)
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You're right, I did overlook Morgenstern. I forget how many times we've actually met him, to be honest. :P

Speculation is fun, but ultimately useless; there are dozens of possibilities here. I'm kind of hoping none of us guess the real one! :)
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From:xooxer
Date:October 25th, 2004 06:56 am (UTC)
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Well, we may have already guessed, but it's impossible to tell at this point. We were pretty much right about the Bishop and the Seeress, but the Bone King's role was not exactly what we had imagined.

I still believe Morgenstern was the big baddie here, too many things point to him. Doesn't his name mean morning star in german? I wonder who that could be. ¬.¬